Hasty Treat - Rural and Mobile Internet Revisited

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Welcome to syntax in this Monday, hasty treat. We're gonna be talking about rural and mobile Internet revisited.

We're gonna be talking all about some of Wes' trials and tribulations to get his mobile Internet up and running. I guess you can't really call it mobile, but your Internet, I should say, up and running in the Chateau des Bosses.

So my name is Scott Tolinski. I'm a full stack developer from Denver, Colorado. Node with me, as always, from the Full Stack Shack is Wes Bos.

I like that. I actually hung up the sign behind me. You can't see me because I got my video off right now. But Because you're Internet. Says yeah. Because the Internet is slow, I made this, like, cool sign with a router. It says the full stack shack.

Nice.

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Let's get into it. So a quick primer for those who didn't listen to the last one. About a year ago, we did a show on getting rural Internet. And I I always think this flies, man. Well, not exactly a year ago. Probably, like, 10 months ago. But, yeah, it was it was a long time ago. So I've been playing with this stuff for probably a year and a half. And but just because, like, my wife and I, about a year ago, we bought a cottage in Northern Ontario, and, there's not a whole lot of options for Internet yet. And I've done all the research and and Because, like, one of the cool things about being Wes developers, you probably can work from anywhere.

And especially now that we have this pandemic going on, people are, like, just being able to to go wherever they want and be able to work from that as long as you have a good solid Internet connection. So I think that's pretty cool. I really think that having, like, this fast Internet is a bit of a a human right. It's obviously not like food and water, but, certainly, I see people out here that are locals struggle with getting fast Internet, and it certainly gets in their way, especially now that we're trying to do school, from from being online. So, what I'm gonna do in this episode is sort of break down the different options and then go into my setup as to how I've made it work out here.

So I'll go through the options real quick. You've got satellite Internet, you've got wisps, and you've got sale cellular LTE for for different options for getting Internet. So there are no phone lines that reach out where I am JS well as many rural places. They have phone lines, but they they don't have DSL. So most people say, oh, just get DSL, but you can't do that because the way that DSL works is that they run a fiber line, and they have a box somewhere in your neighborhood, and then they they run the last leg of the Internet over the phone lines. And if you don't have a box anywhere near your house, then there's no way you can get any any speeds past dial up over your phone lines. There's also no cable connections out in most rural places, so you can't that's a hard word to say, rural.

It is. It's really hard for me to say.

Rural. Rural. Rural. Rural. Yeah. So That that Sanity the option right there right there. Just us trying to say rural. Someone add that to the soundboard.

So satellite has been an option for a long time. In Canada, we have one called Explornet. In in the States, the big one is HughesNet.

These companies have 1 or 2 satellites up in up in the air, and they have very high latency, like, over a second latency, which is really bad. Like, if Scott were to run a speed test right Node, go go run a speed test and tell me what your your ping is. If you open up your terminal and just type ping google.comorpingwestboss.com, the amount of time it takes to send a small amount of bytes or the amount of time it takes for my voice to reach Scott is what is called latency. Because, obviously, there is it takes a while for data to travel over the wire, but if you were to send a very small amount of data and just, like, a pulse to someone, you have some sort of latency, and that's generally measured in milliseconds. So at home, I have, like, a 20 millisecond, and that's on a fast cable connection. I'm tethered to my phone right now, and and that's a 60 millisecond latency.

And then once you get onto satellite, they often get into 100, if not seconds, of of latency. What what do you have? I'm on my Wi Fi connection, and I have

4 millisecond.

Yeah. See, that's like nothing. And I I bet if you were wired, you'd get you'd get even less than that. Yeah. Because, I I I mean, I'm getting a quarter of my speeds right now.

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I I've seen people with fiber post 1 millisecond, and I'm getting 60 on an LTE connection right Node. And that just goes up from there. So satellite was not really an option for me just because of the high latency as well as the congestion and then the speeds as well. The upload speeds are download and upload speeds are are pretty awful for that. We are I've been watching a lot lately is Starlink, which is Elon Musk's SpaceX company. They are they have been launching low orbit satellites.

There's also another company called OneWeb that's working on this as well, and they they are launching satellites that are much lower than than HughesNet and Exploronet, and they're saying that you'll be able to get 400 megabits down and about 30 milliseconds latency, which is still not fiber, but that's extremely fast for people who are in a lot of rural locations. So that's what they're they're aiming for. It looks like at the time recording, we're recording on June 1st, and they're about 2 months out from private beta testing and 4 months out from public beta testing.

Hopefully, in, I don't know, 6, 8 months from now, this entire podcast will be obsolete because, especially in in all of Canada and Northern US, there is going to be satellite Internet via Starlink. So that's what they're saying. Obviously, proof is in the pudding whether they can actually deliver it or not, but I'm very much excited to to get that out here. That's all all fascinating to me because it is it does seem like something's going to change very quickly,

but that's kind of seen that way for a while. The whole satellite Internet thing has sort of been teased or whether that's Internet via balloons or all sorts of these different strategies for bringing Internet to underserved areas, whether that is rural areas or just in the middle of Africa or something. Right? So it's such an interesting topic that I wonder what the actual time line looks like. You know?

Yeah. I've been watching it like crazy, and they're obviously going going quick, but, like, they still have to test it once all like, all the satellites are not even up. They still have at the time of recording, they have still 15 more rocket ship launches before they can for the end of the year before they can get all these satellites in the air. So looking forward to that. The next one we have here, I won't spend too long on these because these are not the options that I went with. The next one is a WISP, stands for wireless Internet service provider.

What happens is that somebody in the Sanity, and these are generally very small Internet service providers, not like a Comcast or something, but I'm part of a Facebook group and and Scott of just watching. And it generally is somebody that has a little bit of land or a place to put a tower. They'll throw up a tower. They'll pay to get fiber run from the local Sanity, or they'll beam it in from the local city if they can have line of sight. And then they will broadcast on generally, they they broadcast them on unlicensed spectrum. So your cell phone will often run on a 700 megahertz or, like, 5 g is gonna be running at 30:30:30

megahertz. Hold on. Let me look at it. Did you know, Wes, that 5 g's, it runs at the the exact megahertz that will scramble your brain according to some people? Did you see the the whole scam? There was, like, some 5 g's USB dongle? Yeah. The USB dongle. So for those of you who don't know, there was, like, a a a town hall meeting. I think it was in England.

Basically, these people saying, well, we've used this item to block the 5 g, the the harmful five g rays that are penetrating our brains.

So what coronavirus came from? Yeah. That is where coronavirus came from, and it's been very effective using this dongle. And then somebody found out it was just, like, a 5 12 megabyte USB dongle with a sticker on it. And they were charging an insane amount of money for it. Oh my gosh.

Makes me feel bad for a lot of people because, like Makes me feel bad about the education

system for people that fall for that kind of stuff.

So five g is 25 to 39 gigahertz.

That is pretty high in the spectrum. Obviously, it depends on your local government and who sells the spectrum. Generally, US and and Canada are are the same as well. We're getting 5 g as well. There are places in the spectrum that are unlicensed, meaning anybody can run them. And that's why if you buy a walkie talkie or a baby monitor or something like that, you're allowed to just broadcast the signal over that. Whereas, if you wanna run a ham radio, you're not allowed to do that without a license because different megahertz and gigahertz of the spectrum are licensed. So, generally, the way that these Wes work is that I didn't even know this until there was rumors of a wisp going up in our location.

They run, basically, a massive Wi Fi router.

They put up a tower that's about they try to stay under a 100 feet in Canada because then you don't need a license to put up a tower, or a permit or anything, and then they just rebroadcast the Internet signal on 2.45 and five gigahertz, which is the same frequency that your your Wi Fi router runs on and because those are unlicensed.

It seems pretty cowboy, but it definitely is the way that a lot of smaller communities work, and there's been rumors. I I've been talking to the local ISP that they're they're putting up a tower on our lake. But every time I ask them about it, they're like, yeah. Hopefully soon. Maybe next week. And it's been, like, a couple of months of that. So unsure if that will actually ever happen, but Wes seemed to be like, that's what I would look for if you live in a rural place. There's generally someone that invests 10, $15,000 into a tower, entrenching fiber all the way there. That's wild.

And then the final one, which is what I've gone with, is just using the cellular networks in your area. So if you have good cell phone signal, which often lot of rural areas will have a good cell phone signal or good enough to reach their area, you can try to use that to get your Internet. And I'll talk about the plans in just a second, but that certainly is a a good option. Some of the wisps do use LTE as well, but it's not like a cell phone provider LTE. It's just a localized. So they'll throw up 1 tower with LTE signals that broadcast out of it. That's sort of another option versus the 5, and 2.5 gigahertz.

So let's talk about routers and modems.

If you want to use cellular LTE, you need to go off and get a a router that will support that JS well as a modem card that will support that. So popular routers that are out there, they you can pretty much run any router that will run this OS that's called Golden Orb or or Rooter, it's called.

What that is is it's a version of OpenWRT.

So OpenWRT is like a custom modem firmware that you can throw on. I don't know. There's a list of, like, a 100 different routers that you can go buy for $100, and it will run on that. As long as your router has enough, like, RAM and has the different chipsets in it, then it will be able to run. And the difference between OpenWRT and Golden Orb or Rooter or the one I've used is called Wifix. They're all based on the same thing.

They have added code in order to communicate and configure LTE modems because, generally, your router doesn't care about being a modem. Your router just takes in a, like, a Ethernet cable from whatever your cable or DSL or fiber connection is. This custom, I would just call it Rooter, will run on you can go and buy, like, a Netgear modem and and hack it to run that on. The pretty popular one out there is called the w e Wes dash t two, and you can just Google this. It's something like $40 on eBay.

It's nice and small. It runs on 12 volt, which is important because that means you can plug it into your car as well, or you can just go ahead and buy a it it comes with, like, a a 12 volt plug. Like the DC, the the cigarette jack. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Because Exactly. The USBs are only five volts as far as I'm aware. Right? Or maybe they're more now, but I think in the past, they've only been 5. Generally, it's dependent on the little nub. So the nub that you plug into your car or the nub that you plug into your wall will either take do DC to DC step down. So your car voltage is DC, and that will take 12 volt and step it down into generally 5 or or 2.1, or your the wall one will take Wes in North America and step it down into to what you want. They certainly can go much higher, though, and that that's why you get these bigger blocks when you buy an iPad or even bigger when you buy the one that, comes with your MacBook now. So it's definitely depend on that as well as, like, the spec. There's a limit to how how many volts can go over a USB cable.

So that's like a super popular one. That is just a router. They generally don't come with modems installed. You I'll talk about that in just a second. And then other opt good options are and very popular right now is the Nighthawk M1.

Oh, yeah. That looks cool.

Yeah. It looks very cool. It's the m r Node one zero zero. Ever since the pandemic came out, they went from I bought mine for about $200.

It's great. It's got a little screen on it that'll tell you what's going on. Has a nice battery on it that lasts quite a long time, so it's it's pretty portable. You can throw it in your in your bag, something like that. So that's that's a really nice option. It comes with a comes with a modem inside of it. It will do up to, like, 10 different devices or something like that, and then it also has an Ethernet out that you can plug into your your regular home networking setup, which is pretty cool.

The only downside to that is you it's not super hackable because, like, they don't give you full control over absolutely all your IP tables and everything like that like you would with OpenWRTU or Rooter, but it's pretty popular, and I really like it as well. In the last, podcast we did, I said I'm using the ZedTE MF 288, and that is a good very good router, but it doesn't it's not they can't put custom firmware on it. You can't put your own modems in it. So if that works for what you're using, that works great. There's a local carrier, Bell, that uses those. So we have a plan with them, and I threw that SIM card in there. So those are sort of the the 3 big routers that are out there. There's certainly lots of other options, but if you want something that's easy, go with probably the a 20 60 2 or the Nighthawk m one.

We'll talk about modems. So modems are the things that take an actual SIM card and and convert that into a data connection. And there's 2 types of modems. You have a host modem, which is like, if you've ever seen, like, these little plug in USB things that you plug into your laptop and it has a SIM card in it. That's a host modem, and there are more popular, the PCIe cards, or they're they're actually mini PCIe or they're this other thing called the m two card.

And, generally, these modems are tiny little cards that you can generally slap into your laptop or into one of these modems, and then it will read the SIM card data from either an adapter or from your your Node. The w e a Wes comes with a SIM card slot in it that it will read that data from.

Popular modems out there, the most popular ones are from Sierra Wireless, which is owned by NETGEAR. So if you buy the Nighthawk, it comes with Sierra Wireless, or you can just go buy these cards. There is a popular modem that is on Amazon that is you can look up these things if you're really into it. I won't bore you with the the details of it, but there's a popular one that were pulled out of old Dell laptops that can be flashed as a very popular Sierra Wireless card. So those are probably the best. I went through a whole bunch. There's also another company, Quisel, q u e c e l.

They make popular ones, but in in my experience, they don't work as well, and they're not as configurable as a Sierra Wireless ones.

Once you have a modem, you can start playing with it by by communicating to the modem via what are called app commands.

So you you generally telnet into your router or the router will have an interface to send these commands to your router, and you can do things like what's very popular is called band locking. So if you turn your phone on your iPhone, it'll just connect to whatever band it thinks, and and bands are the different different megahertz and gigahertz spectrums.

There's, like, band 2 and band 4 and band 10 and different carriers are on different bands, and it will try to connect to the best one. But what people have found is that if you lock it to a certain band, especially some of these new higher frequency bands, if you're nice and close to a tower, then you can get faster speeds. Or if you're further away from a tower, you can lock it to a lower band and make sure that it always stays on that. So I did a bunch of testing on the cell towers in my area, and I realized that band 10 is where I get the fastest speeds, so I locked it to that band.

And then you can also enable carrier aggregation.

So your iPhone will do this by default, but it will lock to multiple bands at once. It'll say, like, I'm gonna use band 10 and band 2 and put those together, and that will allow me to get, like, a 150 megabits down and a 150 megabits up by sort of aggregating them together.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work in my area just because the towers don't support carrier aggregation, but I found in when I'm in Hamilton, the towers do support that. So that's another thing you can kinda go with.

What else? By issuing commands to these modems, you get detailed values on power. So, one thing I had to do is point an antenna around my property to find where I was getting the best reception.

And by issuing commands to these modems, you can get the the raw data instead of, like, 2 Bos.

Because, like, what does 2 bars mean? And under the hood, you can get actual raw data on different values. RSSI, signal signal to noise ratio. It's a little bit geeky, but you can do a little bit of research into it and figure out what values should you be looking at getting higher or lower. And then finally, you can get cell tower IDs. So it's important to know which cell tower you're locked into, and each tower has an ID on it. And those IDs are not readily available either in Canada or in the US, So you sort of have to find them yourself or use an app I'll talk about in just a second. Jeez. What would you do if you weren't

a computer person? Like, this is interesting, but, like, man, I can't imagine any normal human being. No offense, Wes. I can't imagine normal people going through any of this hassle just to get Internet.

I'm hoping what happens is that and and we're starting to see this, is that cell carriers start to roll out, like, just a box you can buy and a SIM card you can put in it, and it will just work.

But if you are very remote or if the sort of thing of, like, using a cell cell card in a LTE modem is sort of frowned upon by the cell carriers or not supported or anything like that, then you do have to get, a little bit hacky. So it's sort of interesting because it it feels like very early days. There's huge communities of people doing this on Facebook and in the forums and things like that, and it is too bad because, like, I get people message me all the time and say, like, hey. Like, I would love to do this. Like, what what do I buy? And I'm just like, well, first of all, do Node you have PuTTY installed on your Windows computer? And, like, can you because, like, I've I've totally bricked them, like, a $200 modem before.

How good are you at soldering?

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Like, that's literally something you have to do is if you brick a modem, you have to solder USB connections to some of the pads on the modem, in order to reflash some of these

devices. Right? Yeah. That was funny because that was a joke, and I didn't even realize how accurate it was. Yeah. Yeah. It's,

it it is too bad. And, honestly, I think it will get better in in the coming years, especially JS, like even in Canada, there's the government has said in by 2030, which is way too long, 10 years, that every person in Canada should be able to get, I think, 50 down and 20 up in 10 years, which is a joke because, like, I need this right now.

Yeah. Next up, antennas.

Where I live, the service that I'm using will only operate on Rogers, and, we don't have Rogers reception where we are. So in order to get reception, we have put antennas up in the air, and there's kinda 2 different types of antennas. You get omnidirectional antennas, which you just throw in the air, and you don't have to point them. And those are are good in most cases that you get, like, a okay signal, but you want better. And then if you have if you really wanna get a good signal and you know what you're doing, you can get these things called the Yagi antennas, and they are pointed. You have to run 2 of them each at a 45 degree angle, and then you gotta point them directly at the cell tower and get them as high as you possibly can.

We had them on top of our house, and they were working last last year.

And we came back this year, and they just just stopped working entirely. I don't know if I have some corrosion in the connections or or something happened. So we just and I'm not about to climb on our roof. We paid we didn't pay anyone. I got my brother-in-law to climb on the roof. It was crazy, but I'm not about to climb on the roof and take him down. So I just bought more, and I put him on a 20 foot piece of wood.

And then we went to the very highest porch spot at our Scott. So it's probably, you know, 40 feet in the air, And I'm I'm devising a plan to get it even higher, but that was good enough to to get me back online. Man. So now you Scott you gotta solder. You gotta climb.

You gotta

hack. I literally climbed a t I climbed a tree, and I was just like I just Node a thing in the browser that would speak the signal strength to me every 5 seconds, and then I climbed a tree, and I was just pointing it around. And I was getting some weird reception because the signal was bouncing off. Like, we're in a very hilly area. So the signal was bouncing off of a hill and back at us. So when if I turned it around, it was working better and just, it like, you have to, like, be somewhat curious to do this because, like, who's gonna climb a tree and Scott slaughtering things? Right? Like,

it's not for everybody, but certainly It's the hacker mentality, though. It's definitely the hacker mentality. And if if you needed me to climb trees, Wes, I would climb lots of trees for you because I'm I'm,

definitely a tree climber. You Node, that's that's definitely and Landon Landon started early. He's already climbing our peach tree, and Courtney's not so psyched about it. Oh, yeah. Alright. Well, I'm gonna you could come down. When the borders reopen, you come down and get get that one off of our house. Alright. I'm down. What else? Boosters? So there's also cell boosters where you can throw an antenna up in the air, and then it will rebroadcast the LTE signal inside the house. And those are good for metal buildings and things like that, but they do add a lot of noise. So in my case, a Bos was not a good use case.

Let's talk about plans. So, like, how do you how do you get a cell phone plan that that does this? So a lot of plans are phone only, so they will either detect if you take, like, a SIM card and throw in an iPhone, it works great. And then if you put it in a LTE modem, it will stop working.

And they detect that by either by the IMEI number, which is a, like, a unique number to your phone or to your modem, or they detect it by what's called a TTL value. And a TTL value is how many routers like, basically, if you send a request to Scott, every time that piece of data goes through another router, the TTL value is decremented by 1, and that's to stop requests from bouncing around the Internet forever. And if it ever hits 0 TTL, then the thing will just die and and never make it. I've heard, and this is not in Canada, but T Mobile uses a TTL to detect people hot spotting.

So if you hot spot, your TTL will be Node less than if you make the request directly from your phone. So people have found out that if you just increase your TTL by 1, it detects it as hot spot even though it's not or or sorry. It detects it not as hot spot. I've never done that because that's not available in in Canada, but I've heard that that's a way to sort of get around that.

Some in the States, it's pretty popular to use something called the Calyx, c a l y x. There's a lot of third party resellers that will sell SIM cards that work for data purposes and have unlimited.

So there's Calix Institute. It's very expensive. I think you have to pay $500 up front to get access to it.

And then I think it's, like, I don't know, 50, $100 a month to get unlimited, which is which is amazing.

In Canada, we have Bell, which we live in a rural area, so we qualify for their special pricing, which is you get a 100 gigs for $80, and then after that, it's $4 a gig.

So our bill was $300, and I I called them up. I was like, you're a criminal. Like, my kid is trying to I'm working from home. My kid is trying to do school, and you're charging $4 a gig.

So there's that. It's a it's a huge rip off. We have that one as sort of a backup because we do get good bell. We get great bell signal out here, and we just plug it in, and it works, but we try not to use that one because it's so expensive.

TELUS in Wes Canada has, like, a a terabyte for $70 a month, which is awesome. And then, again, it's locked by tower, so you have to apply for it based on your billing address or your your where you live, and they'll lock that modem to only work on a specific tower in your area. So, like, it it we are seeing some change, but you look at other things. Like, I did the math on the other carriers in Canada, and it would have been, like, $1200 a month. So, currently, I am actually, I'm not gonna say what I'm using. I'm I'm using an American plan that is on roaming.

I don't want it I don't want it to get taken down, so it's a better deal to go to the States and buy a SIM card and then bring it to Canada and use it on roaming full time, which I think the company that I'm using knows that they are, like, doing better, but I I won't say too much more about that because it's it's a bit of a gray area.

Speeds depends on tower congestion. I was getting, like, 150 megabits down in at home. Up here, I'm I'm lucky to get Node down and 1 up, and that is with the tower that is with it perfectly pointed. I did drive around the lake and sat right next to the tower, and I got 25 down and about 5 up. So a lot of times, the tower will simply just limit your speed because there's other people in the area that need to use it as well. It also depends on if you're prepaid, postpaid, or some people are, like, ambulance drivers or cops on the form, and they get these things called first responder accounts called FirstNet.

And they are top of the line in terms of priority, which is pretty cool. But, obviously, regular people can't get access to those as well.

Let's wrap it up here. Some tools to use. There's an app in the States called Cell Mapper. People put it on their Android phones, and they try to map out the where the cell towers are in the States because you need to know, like, where's the cell tower and what who who owns that cell tower and what carrier are they broadcasting.

In Canada, they must legally tell you where the cell towers are, so there's lots of maps where you can just look up the different cell towers. They won't tell you the cell ID of that tower, but you can just you can just drive to it and check what the ID is on your phone. You can you can open your iPhone and hit star 12345 pound 30001 pound star, and that will open up field diagnostic mode in your iPhone, and that will give you the raw data as to what tower you're connected to and and what carrier and things like that. Pretty neat. Facebook group, LTE hacks Facebook group is awesome group of people who are trying to do this for themselves as Wes, and the ltefix .com is a great website as well that has a bunch of gear. So if if you're in the States and you wanna order gear, ltefix seems to be the place to get it. That's it.

Wow.

That's everything I've learned about LTE Internet. It's not perfect. Like, I'm not even recording this with Scott right now just because the upload is so bad, and the latency is still, like, a 150, 200, sometimes 500 milliseconds. I'm still getting a latency on my LTE modem.

It's fine for uploading a YouTube video. It takes a couple hours. That's okay. It's fine for downloading, doing Instagram, uploading photos, but when it comes to doing video calls, it's still too slow, and that's why I have to save my 10 gigs of cell phone data a month for talking to Scott.

That's crazy. I'm sorry.

Node. That's okay. That's like like, like, it's hard to feel sorry for me because, like, we're sort of on vacation here. Obviously, we're still working, but, like, we chose to come out here. What makes me frustrated is that the government and a lot of these companies don't care about the people that live out here and need access to these things. Like, even simply just, like, being able to visit a doctor online, which is something you can do in our province now or attend Scott, all of that stuff is is really important for local people, and it's frustrating to see a lot of the rural residents left out of that. Well,

I mean, I've lived in places that haven't had access to the best Internet, but I've never had Deno with anything quite like what you're experiencing.

Yeah.

It's crazy to me, and it does it does give you a bit of perspective in terms of, like, really just what people deal with all over the not only both of our countries, but I can't even imagine in other countries what it's like. So, it def it definitely opens your mind, and it JS fascinating to hear what you go through to get get a good signal. You say other countries. Europe. Every time I complain about it, you get a screenshot from someone. They're like, oh, I live in I live somewhere in Europe, and I pay €5 a month for, like, a gigabit down. And I'm a little bit and, like, it's just, like, not a thing at all. South Korea or Japan where they have yeah.

It's amazing. And, obviously, there's there's other countries as well where it's just, like, I get emails all the time from people that ask, like, hey. I wanna buy your course, but how big is it? Like, they wanna know the size of the download before they even buy it because that's a they don't know if they can take it or not because they're gonna have to spend a couple days downloading this thing before they can even take the course.

Yeah. Wild.

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